Mike Marcellin, Chief Marketing Officer, Juniper Networks

Global #JuniperSummit Preview: Demanding More From Your Network

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A screenshot from the LinkedIn Live roundtable. Stephan Fouant, Juniper Ambassador, is on the top left; Zeus Kerravala of ZK Research is on the top right; Nupur Kanoi, Juniper Ambassador, is on the bottom left; and Mike Marcellin, Juniper Chief Marketing Officer, is on the bottom right.

What ‘Demand more from your network’ means to three prominent industry voices 

Ahead of the Global #JuniperSummit, we gathered an all-star panel of industry voices on LinkedIn to talk about the shift to experience-first networking. Hear their insights and find out what the theme, “Demand more from your network,” means to them.  Register now  for the Summit to hear how to put these ideas into action.

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You’ll learn

  • A brief definition of “experience-first” from the Juniper perspective 

  • What our panelists are seeing in terms of experience-first networking in the market

  • Last but not least: What these experts see when they look in their crystal balls and envision the future 

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Mike Marcellin
Chief Marketing Officer, Juniper Networks 

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Zeus Kerravala
Founder and Principal Analyst, ZK Research
Nupur Kanoi Headshot
Nupur Kanoi
Juniper Networks Ambassador
Stefan Fouant Headshot
Stefan Fouant
Juniper Networks Ambassador 


0:00 [Music]

0:06 welcome everybody it's great to be here

0:08 on linkedin live mike marcelin with

0:10 juniper networks here um so

0:13 next week as you saw in the intro is the

0:15 juniper networks global summit it's may

0:18 11th so mark your calendars uh and and

0:20 please do register and so today i'm live

0:23 with an all-star panel of industry

0:26 voices to talk about what this shift

0:29 from um

0:30 the old networking toward an experienced

0:33 first networking really means

0:35 we'll also be monitoring the chat i see

0:37 some people logging in and saying hi so

0:39 that's great so as we go feel free to

0:41 drop any questions or comments and i'll

0:44 be kind of keeping an eye on that and

0:46 hopefully bringing some of those in

0:48 so without further ado let's introduce

0:50 our panel of guests first up we have

0:53 zias caravala

0:54 he's the principal analyst at ck

0:56 research zias welcome to the stage and

0:58 maybe tell us a little bit about your

1:00 current research areas and what you're

1:01 looking at

1:03 uh sure thanks mike for having me and uh

1:06 actually i said hello in the linkedin

1:08 thing too so uh i i'm trying to monitor

1:10 that and talk about this now as far as

1:12 research covers goes as you know i'm not

1:14 a typical analyst that has you know a

1:16 single coverage area that i live and die

1:18 with rest of my life i tend to focus

1:20 more on the emerging technologies that

1:23 are changing the landscape of

1:25 communications and everything and

1:27 security and so

1:28 you know right now you know a few years

1:30 ago i didn't really cover a lot of wind

1:32 but of course now we have this

1:33 transition to sd-wan going on i'm

1:35 looking a lot at

1:37 the impact that artificial intelligence

1:39 has on network and security operations i

1:41 think that's a pretty fascinating field

1:44 some of the other areas that i'm looking

1:45 at right now are

1:47 what's going on in wireless industry

1:49 with both 5g wi-fi 6 6e wi-fi 7's coming

1:54 and so and you know just from an overall

1:56 perspective the role of the network has

1:58 changed itself right this is something

1:59 you and i have talked about where if you

2:01 think of

2:02 uh businesses as they go through the

2:04 digital transformation plans uh they're

2:06 adopting a lot of network-centric

2:08 technologies mobility cloud iot even ai

2:11 things like that and so the network

2:12 itself is playing a bigger role in how

2:15 companies operate so that's a you know a

2:17 quick intro on how i look at the world

2:19 thanks yes and for those of you that

2:21 don't follow zias please do because as

2:23 he said he's got probably the most

2:25 comprehensive view of all of those

2:27 different areas um and and can really

2:30 see patterns that are emerging across

2:31 them so see it's it's great to have you

2:33 here today

2:34 um

2:35 we have nubra kenoi uh she is a senior

2:38 network engineer at google fiber so uh

2:40 newport why don't you introduce yourself

2:44 hi everyone thanks mike for the

2:46 introduction uh i work as a senior

2:48 network engineer in google fiber my role

2:51 is more focused towards expansion of

2:53 google fiber just to tie in google fiber

2:56 is expanding in

2:59 like more market cities now and

3:02 i am more focused towards automating the

3:05 g fiber network so that's again uh

3:08 that's something that we have been

3:09 trying and doing to do uh trying to do

3:13 and i have been a juniper ambassador for

3:16 more than six years now so it's been a

3:18 fun ride definitely

3:20 and uh the other thing that i want to

3:23 highlight is uh

3:26 uh

3:27 we have been like uh trying to uh in

3:31 like do a lot of

3:33 trying to do different things than what

3:35 the typical service writer does so

3:37 that's something that i would just want

3:38 to highlight what g fiber is doing and

3:40 what i am doing

3:43 great well thank you it's great to have

3:45 you here today and looking forward to

3:46 our conversation

3:47 um and

3:48 last but not least we have stephon fawan

3:51 uh he's the principal owner of shortest

3:53 path first stephon welcome and maybe

3:55 give the audience a brief intro on you

3:57 sure thanks mark mike really excited to

3:59 be here i've got my juniper swag here at

4:01 the ready um but yeah super excited um

4:05 you know my background is i've been

4:06 working with juniper for about 24 years

4:08 i think my first exposure was back in

4:10 1998. um you know i worked for a lot of

4:14 other folks for many years and about

4:15 three years ago decided to start my own

4:17 juniper reseller company so i do uh our

4:20 primary function is to uh resell

4:22 hardware and software and then we also

4:24 do consulting and network architecture

4:26 those types of things um and uh yeah

4:29 i've also been a juniper ambassador for

4:32 roughly the last six years as well i

4:33 think i joined around the same time as

4:36 newper

4:37 and really excited i'm really super

4:39 excited about the sessions next week so

4:41 i'm looking forward to seeing you guys

4:42 all there

4:43 that's great and for those of you

4:44 keeping track uh 1998 was the year

4:46 juniper launched its fir or shipped its

4:48 first product so stefan is an og juniper

4:51 supporter

4:52 it's great to have your perspective

4:54 throughout throughout the years as the

4:56 industry has changed and as juniper has

4:57 changed actually

4:59 like i was uh my pre-analyst days i was

5:01 actually working for a reseller myself

5:03 back then who actually we actually were

5:05 funded partially by juniper extreme

5:07 networks and so we we moved a lot of

5:09 juniper gear back in the day too

5:11 so i was working at a company called

5:12 unet and we were i think one of the

5:14 first flagship companies and this was

5:17 even before the flagship m40 product

5:19 came out so we were testing code on

5:22 olives back then for any of you guys who

5:24 remember those olives

5:25 yeah that's right olive was the original

5:28 version of uh of junos essential it

5:30 became junos right yeah

5:32 absolutely these are the interesting

5:33 stories for me because i was just in

5:35 college

5:37 [Music]

5:41 good answer good answer um

5:44 okay well so

5:46 kind of interesting as we just did a

5:47 quick uh journey down memory lane let's

5:50 fast forward now to where things are

5:52 going and you know one of the things

5:54 that i know you all have heard juniper

5:55 talk about and many others have as well

5:57 is this concept of experience first

5:59 networking and i'll give kind of a brief

6:02 definition of what that means from our

6:03 perspective but then i would love to

6:05 hear uh what all of you kind of take

6:07 away from that notion and what you're

6:09 seeing uh out in the market but just in

6:12 brief experience first networking is

6:13 just an acknowledgement that you know

6:15 the the network and where things need to

6:17 go is not about you know boxes and

6:19 speeds and feeds it's ultimately about

6:22 how

6:23 the users of the network experience it

6:25 because i can tell you the network is up

6:26 and running but if you're having a bad

6:28 experience then that doesn't matter to

6:30 you and so our focus it's really our

6:32 true north as a company is really about

6:35 kind of simplifying that experience for

6:37 the network operator the people that

6:39 build and run networks every day and

6:41 then creating a differentiated uh and

6:44 optimized end user experience and we'll

6:47 get into a little bit about how we do

6:48 that with ai and with automation and

6:51 other tools but that's really what it's

6:53 all about and it's it's really thinking

6:55 beyond the network itself to what the

6:57 network enables

6:59 so with that kind of as a backdrop uh

7:01 maybe i'll just go around the horn real

7:03 quick and see us start with you just you

7:04 know um what what does that notion of

7:07 experience first networking mean to you

7:09 um and how does it get manifested in

7:11 some of your research areas and in the

7:13 many people that you talk to yeah well i

7:16 love the topic of experience first

7:18 networking because it orients very well

7:20 uh with with my research in fact uh the

7:23 the real

7:24 kind of driving

7:26 i guess uh focus for my research is

7:28 about how

7:29 businesses are changing experiences

7:31 right so it's very pretty well

7:32 documented that customer experience is

7:35 now uh the number one brand

7:36 differentiator for a lot of companies

7:38 you know businesses that offer a great

7:39 customer experience tend to thrive they

7:41 can become market leaders ones that

7:43 don't fail right and there's another

7:46 side to the cx coin though which is

7:48 employee experience and often companies

7:50 forget about that but you can't really

7:52 offer a best-in-class customer

7:54 experience unless you have a

7:55 best-in-class employee experience and so

7:58 this concept of experience versus

8:00 networking is how you leverage the

8:01 network

8:02 to offer to be able to create both

8:04 experience you know employment and

8:06 customer experience and i think the one

8:08 thing is juniper that's where it's

8:09 helped juniper is i i used to think of

8:11 juniper historically as a collection of

8:14 best to breed stuff

8:16 right you had good products but you

8:18 didn't really have that overarching kind

8:20 of vision and lighthouse to road to

8:23 but it's actually given juniper that and

8:26 if you look at a lot of the acquisitions

8:27 that juniper's made with appstra and

8:29 128t and mist and things like that

8:32 those all are additive to that

8:34 experience first networking strategy and

8:36 so i think it's it's been good for

8:39 juniper because it obviously creates

8:41 that focal point for the company and how

8:43 to build your products and you know if

8:45 it adds that experience for networking

8:46 do it and if it doesn't then you got to

8:47 question it um but it's also helpful i

8:50 think drive your acquisition strategy

8:52 your product portfolio which is

8:53 ultimately then good for your customers

8:55 as well

8:56 yeah thank you for that zeus and you're

8:58 absolutely right it's been uh it's been

9:00 certainly been a catalyst for us to get

9:01 to get to get on this journey some of

9:03 these amazing acquisitions that we've

9:05 made so it's an upper let me let me

9:07 pivot over to you because you talked a

9:08 little bit at the beginning about how

9:09 google fiber thinks about things a

9:11 little bit differently as a service

9:12 provider so imagine some of that

9:14 different thinking is around um what it

9:17 takes to run the network and the

9:19 experience of users of the network so

9:21 give us your take on experience versus

9:22 networking

9:23 yeah as a service provider engineer uh

9:26 my in my opinion i believe experience

9:28 first networking is more about again

9:30 reiterating the same thing that you uh

9:33 vs and you mentioned it's more about

9:35 modern customer experience like

9:37 delivering modern customer experience

9:39 but at the same time adding

9:40 simplification for a network engineer to

9:42 be able to build upon or you know

9:44 maintain the network uh being from the

9:47 service provider industry there are lots

9:49 of uh

9:50 like the network is already pre-built

9:53 when there was uh nothing sort of

9:55 automation like there was no automation

9:56 back then right so there is a lot of

9:58 legacy stuff flying around so it's a

10:00 slow road for a service provider to take

10:02 that like uh to automate and all those

10:05 stuff but uh

10:07 most of the uh things are driven by

10:09 customers now especially during the

10:11 corporate era everything is fast tracked

10:12 right so customers have started

10:15 demanding more from the service pro from

10:17 their service providers and also from

10:19 the network so uh because of that uh

10:22 service writers have started take having

10:25 that vision he uh started uh to see that

10:28 vision of you know implementing

10:30 automation or ai in the network i i

10:32 believe uh juniper

10:34 saw that quite a qui from quite some

10:37 time like maybe 10 years back since they

10:39 started their company or because even

10:42 with the legacy uh hardware that we have

10:44 in our network we have that thing called

10:46 as on box automation even a person even

10:49 if a service provider cannot bring in

10:50 something uh some uh like cannot develop

10:52 ai or something with or there's lots of

10:55 investment in that right so uh with on

10:58 box automation a lot of lots of

11:00 possibilities open up and kudos to

11:02 juniper to make that uh for making that

11:05 possible

11:06 yeah thank you

11:07 um and stefan i definitely want to turn

11:09 it to you because zeus mentioned some of

11:11 the acquisitions that i know you've had

11:12 particular experience with

11:14 one of at least one of the acquisitions

11:16 that we made a few years back which was

11:18 missed so give us your take on

11:19 experience first networking and how

11:20 you're seeing that play out in the real

11:22 world well yeah i'll talk a little bit

11:23 about all of those things actually i

11:25 think you know

11:26 i'm total agreement with the rest of the

11:28 speakers here that you know to me um

11:31 this is all about

11:32 improving the overall customer

11:34 experience um and simplifying um the

11:38 network to the extent that we can and i

11:39 mean let's face it

11:41 over the last decade networks have

11:42 gotten really really complex um and zeus

11:46 had mentioned a couple of the different

11:48 acquisitions there's 128t there's miss

11:51 and then we've got abstra and really in

11:53 in all three of those regards

11:55 i think juniper has really made some

11:57 brilliant um acquisitions here that have

12:00 done wonders to simplify the network um

12:03 you know so for example um if we anybody

12:05 that's played around with evpn in the

12:07 data center um you know and has done any

12:10 of that you know it's it's quite

12:12 cumbersome it's very a manual um yeah

12:15 and this is this isn't just a juniper

12:16 thing this is across the board all the

12:18 vendors right you know configuring evpn

12:20 in the data center is a very complex um

12:22 subject matter but um anybody who gets a

12:25 chance to spend time with abstra will

12:27 realize how

12:28 quickly it is to build a green field or

12:30 even incorporate a brownfield network

12:32 into that environment and then you know

12:34 manage not only the underlay but the

12:36 overlay um similarly we've got missed um

12:39 and it's not just about the things that

12:41 miss brings the table in terms of like

12:43 troubleshooting but the fact that

12:45 we don't no longer have to deploy um

12:47 wireless controllers in our environments

12:49 and um being able to completely bring

12:52 that into the cloud and manage it from

12:54 the cloud dramatically simplifies um the

12:57 overall experience of the end user who's

12:59 configuring it managing it um and then

13:02 you know facilitating the

13:03 troubleshooting aspects of those

13:05 um yeah okay go on and on but yeah

13:08 yeah i just want to touch on the point

13:10 that new products that i i actually

13:12 didn't i mentioned to when i was talking

13:14 about experiences was you brought up the

13:16 engineer experience and you know

13:19 stephanie brought up the point of

13:20 narrating has gotten a lot more complex

13:23 and so the point i brought up is reliant

13:25 on networks more

13:26 where to do more but yet networking's

13:28 gotten more complicated you know much

13:30 more complicated and mike i think one of

13:33 the aspects i think of every juniper

13:35 acquisition

13:36 that you've made isn't just kind of a

13:38 better mousetrap it's a fundamental

13:40 rethink on the operational side of

13:42 running the network and that's a market

13:45 different than kind of juniper

13:46 acquisition in the past where you maybe

13:48 look for the better you know the better

13:50 widget but didn't really think about the

13:51 operational side that's a that's a huge

13:53 part of experience first network into my

13:55 mind

13:57 hit it on the head i mean from mist

13:59 which obviously you know look all

14:01 vendors offer some degree of automation

14:03 and we do as well ours is informed more

14:05 by ai to to make that operator

14:07 experience even more proactive and

14:10 self-driving um and then you add to the

14:13 fact that you know we are gathering end

14:15 user client data at a rate that no one

14:18 else can even keep up with so that we

14:20 see troubles or impacts on that end user

14:22 experience faster than anyone else can

14:25 so those those two

14:27 taken together you know really allow us

14:29 to deliver on this vision of experience

14:30 first networking so let me pivot now

14:33 newport you mentioned something in the

14:34 last um

14:36 in your last comment about you know uh

14:38 end users are starting to to demand more

14:40 from the network

14:42 and that's very interesting because that

14:43 is the theme of our summit next week um

14:46 and let me give you a little bit on why

14:48 that's the theme you may think oh that's

14:50 just a marketing theme demand more from

14:51 your network sounds great whatever um

14:53 actually

14:54 it's an acknowledgement that you know

14:57 people have worked with legacy

14:59 incumbents for a long time

15:01 and when you do that you kind of just

15:04 grow to accept things because they've

15:05 always been the way they've always been

15:07 and you may not know that actually

15:09 there's a different or better way now

15:11 you can imagine for us

15:13 coming in and wanting to make sure that

15:15 people understand it actually

15:17 there is actually a new way to go about

15:19 operating the network there's a new way

15:21 to deliver differentiated experiences to

15:23 your end users

15:25 so part of our task is kind of to shake

15:27 people a little bit so that they can get

15:29 out of their current reality

15:30 step back and realize that something

15:32 better exists so that's what demand more

15:36 means and that's what we hope the summit

15:38 next week will provide people is a

15:39 different point of view

15:41 across all parts of the network uh and

15:43 all the outcomes that the network

15:44 delivers as uh you know a new way to

15:47 think about um how how to go about

15:49 delivering those outcomes so with with

15:52 that as a bit of a backdrop i'd love to

15:54 get everyone's uh point of view on on

15:56 that and why don't we turn it around and

15:58 stefan i'll start with you just kind of

16:00 what is what is demand demand more from

16:02 your network what does that conjure up

16:04 in you

16:05 uh i mean i think that it means being

16:07 you know having the end user being able

16:09 to essentially demand that they're

16:11 getting more value out of that network

16:14 right um

16:15 and you know

16:16 kind of dovetailing into the whole use

16:19 of ai and bringing that into the picture

16:21 we were you know previously talking

16:23 about that with the mist um i can talk

16:26 speaking from experience here um i have

16:29 a customer that loves miss and just the

16:31 ability for

16:32 being able to use the marvis ai to do

16:34 that proactive and predictive analytics

16:37 um

16:38 you know it's one thing when say like an

16:39 entire

16:40 floor the wireless goes down those are

16:42 typically a little bit easier to

16:44 troubleshoot that means like you know

16:45 your ap is down or something along those

16:47 lines but it's a lot more difficult when

16:49 everybody else on the floor is is is

16:52 working but you've got just one

16:53 particular client that can't connect for

16:55 whatever reason

16:57 and this one customer that i have that

16:59 deployed missed several years ago

17:01 they used to spend days sometimes

17:03 troubleshooting some of these issues um

17:05 and so when we talk about demanding more

17:07 freemium network it's like what is the

17:08 typical troubleshooting process like you

17:10 know the data's already there um

17:14 the net network operator would already

17:15 be going through that in a very manual

17:18 process now we're talking about bringing

17:19 ai

17:20 and analyzing that data and trying to

17:23 identify what's the the root cause of

17:25 that particular and so this customer

17:27 that used to spend days in most cases

17:29 now um they're notified that there's an

17:32 issue before they're even aware of it or

17:35 before an end user is complaining um and

17:38 and often most cases they're able to fix

17:40 or resolve the problem in in an hour or

17:43 less and oftentimes it's much much less

17:45 than that

17:46 so just being able to demand and get

17:48 more value out of the network

17:50 yeah for sure new newport you you

17:52 touched on this already may go a little

17:53 bit deeper about what that means to you

17:55 as a network engineer what you think it

17:57 means to your end customers even

17:59 yeah so again i'll i'll reiterate a few

18:02 of the things uh

18:04 because of covet everything is fast

18:06 track right so people everyone has

18:08 started uh using internet not unlike

18:11 before right the the internet traffic

18:13 users has kind of exponentially grown so

18:16 because of that even the enterprise

18:19 customers have started realizing the

18:21 importance of increase uh

18:23 back then they were just happy with you

18:25 know maybe having two or a couple of

18:27 redundant lines internet connection and

18:30 they would manually fail over whenever

18:31 they see any traffic loss or a loss of

18:34 connection but now they understand the

18:36 revenue loss that incurs whenever there

18:39 is any packet loss or loss of connection

18:42 so they they are kind of demanding

18:44 sd-wan from like the basic demand has

18:47 become azure and for most of the

18:48 enterprise customers and uh again

18:51 juniper comes in and helps us with that

18:54 uh in terms of uh like providing

18:57 like juniper's 1280 is a complete

18:59 package in in those terms you know it it

19:02 has in the security features which

19:04 customers kind of demands the sassy

19:06 model right the other thing is cloud

19:08 native support that again juniper's 1280

19:10 has and the lg van is obviously there

19:13 with 128 t so uh

19:16 juniper is kind of helping us as we want

19:18 to cater to their customers and which

19:20 that is what i really love about uh

19:23 juniper and the

19:24 the partnership that we have with

19:26 jennifer

19:28 thank you nooper so yes i'm going to

19:29 turn it a little bit for you which is um

19:31 because you you look across the industry

19:33 so comprehensively do you agree with the

19:35 premise i had that sometimes you just

19:37 get embedded in how things are just are

19:40 and you don't step out of that and and

19:42 what what can be unleashed or opened up

19:44 when you do

19:46 oh

19:47 yeah mike i mean

19:48 there's legacy thinking that we have has

19:50 has to go away and i think we have to

19:52 rethink what's possible

19:54 leveraging the network opens up so many

19:56 more possibilities right and and i do

19:58 think companies are expecting more from

20:00 it i was talking with somebody who ran a

20:02 you know a hotel in new york did and

20:04 they were saying that the

20:06 quality of network to the guests is a

20:08 big reason why you know people stay

20:10 there or not right if things it used to

20:12 be if things didn't work we just sort of

20:14 in fact i remember talking from somebody

20:15 at a school system where their wi-fi had

20:16 been down for this was years ago for a

20:18 week and

20:19 teachers didn't say anything because

20:21 they just assumed that's the way

20:22 wireless was right that that's not the

20:24 case anymore we moved everything to the

20:26 cloud we do everything on mobile and if

20:28 the network's not there our businesses

20:30 can't function

20:32 right and so i think from that

20:34 perspective we do expect more from our

20:36 network because it's the engine that

20:37 drives our business today in fact i

20:39 think companies used to almost define

20:41 themselves by their compute

20:42 infrastructure right you think i'm an

20:44 ibm shop right i think we're doing more

20:46 so from a network perspective because

20:49 it's the thing that connects

20:51 all of us together uh you know both

20:53 people to people people to applications

20:55 and it's the thing that allows us to

20:57 actually get work done especially in

20:58 this era that we're going to of hybrid

21:00 work right where we have people

21:01 scattered all over the place now so

21:03 we're leveraging the network more than

21:04 ever and i and i think that

21:06 there's so much innovation happening in

21:08 the network in fact i've seen more

21:10 innovation in networking in the past

21:12 five years than i probably saw the

21:13 previous 20 right so there's a lot of

21:15 exciting stuff going on but we we do

21:17 need to open up our minds and of you

21:19 know how to uh you know to use the

21:21 network in different ways that we did

21:23 before

21:24 yeah well so let's let's look a little

21:26 bit forward obviously over the past

21:29 decade we've seen a ton of change um

21:31 right and 21c is maybe over in the past

21:33 five years from sas and sdn and now ai

21:36 zero trust all of these things that

21:37 we're all now you know right in the

21:39 thick of so let's look forward a bit and

21:41 get out your crystal balls you know for

21:43 the next decade of networking or even

21:45 just the next few years what do you

21:46 think will really shape

21:48 those next few years that's you know

21:50 either here today or just around the

21:51 corner uh newport let's maybe start with

21:53 you

21:54 uh in my belief it will

21:57 uh it will be more about in uh intent

21:59 based networking and self healing

22:01 networks just like self driving cars

22:03 right self healing networks will be the

22:05 future

22:06 because

22:07 i'm gonna be like i keep mentioning

22:09 covered because service product industry

22:11 has changed because of covert so uh

22:15 everything has changed from past two

22:16 years and i'm not talking uh like the

22:18 intent based networking i'm when i

22:21 mention intern based networking it's not

22:22 about that we'll be seeing it

22:25 in next 10 years but probably in next

22:27 couple of years we'll see that as a

22:29 new trend and uh something that has been

22:32 that that will be adopted by many of the

22:35 uh service providers

22:37 got it sophon what does your crystal

22:39 ball tell you

22:40 uh well i think we're just going to keep

22:42 moving forward with uh you know the

22:44 network automation and just kind of

22:46 looking back

22:48 you know 10 years ago

22:50 um you know we were we were basically

22:52 automating compute and we were

22:54 automating storage and we were able to

22:56 spin up those resources in relatively

22:58 short order but the networking piece was

23:01 always the long pole and you it still

23:02 would require some type of coordination

23:05 with a network engineer or a network

23:06 operator to you know stitch points

23:09 together

23:10 um and we've been talking about

23:11 software-defined networking those types

23:13 of things for the last several years um

23:16 and it did seem kind of like

23:18 a distant you know thing that was you

23:22 know it was going to take some time to

23:23 get there but to i'm actually really

23:26 amazed i'm having more and more

23:27 conversation with customers that they

23:29 are actually deploying automation the

23:32 apis are really well established now

23:34 people are getting exposure to it

23:36 and so it's a really really exciting

23:38 time to be able to spin up the

23:40 networking element at the same pace and

23:43 at the same you know

23:44 velocity that we're spinning up compute

23:46 and storage

23:47 and so i think that trend is just going

23:49 to continue kind of dovetailing on what

23:51 newpers said um self-healing being able

23:53 to

23:54 automate the troubleshooting um i just

23:56 think the future is very very bright for

23:58 networking

24:00 and zias i know you're always looking

24:01 around corners so what do you see

24:03 yeah i think one of the the big changes

24:05 that we'll see in mike is the the sort

24:07 of erosion of these networking silos

24:10 historically even when you talk to

24:12 customers right they have a person that

24:14 runs the wam they have the data center

24:15 network they have the wi-fi network

24:17 right they have the campus network but

24:19 when it comes to experiences the

24:21 application that you're using doesn't

24:23 care about these networking silos

24:25 there's there's just one network

24:27 and i think i know that's a direction

24:29 that juniper is trying to head down but

24:30 more and more i think we will get to

24:32 that point where we start thinking of

24:34 the network as a single entity and not

24:35 these discrete silos because that's in a

24:37 lot of ways that's what gets in the way

24:39 of experiences because you may have

24:41 invested in one part of the network but

24:43 not the other and and i do want to touch

24:45 on the ai aspect of it for people

24:47 watching this i know there's a lot of

24:48 sort of fear and trepidation out there

24:50 about networking uh and ai will it take

24:53 my job but will it not i look at

24:55 artificial intelligence as in this

24:58 you know both nuclear system mention

25:00 this concept of a self-driving network

25:02 or fully autonomous network look that's

25:04 that's a ways down the road that's like

25:06 the concept of the self-driving car

25:08 right would anybody get into a car today

25:10 that's got no driver and no controls

25:12 probably not well maybe elon musk fight

25:15 but there's outside of him probably not

25:17 right but there's a bunch of ai being

25:18 built into cars today parallel park

25:20 assist lane changer things that make us

25:22 better drivers similarly with networking

25:25 i know a lot of things that mrs brought

25:26 to market isn't really meant to replace

25:29 the engineer but to make them a better

25:30 engineer there's not an engineer i know

25:33 that's out there that likes to spend a

25:34 quarter of their time doing wi-fi

25:36 troubleshooting but that's what you're

25:38 doing today there's a lot of network

25:39 engineer i know that likes to spend

25:40 another 25 of the time updating vlans

25:43 but that's what you're doing today all

25:45 of those heavy lifting and manual tasks

25:47 can be automated and i'll leave you with

25:49 this for network engineers watching this

25:51 if you're doing things today that do not

25:53 make your resume more strategic don't do

25:56 them find a way to automate them out of

25:58 your job and ai is the key to doing that

26:01 that's incredible advice yes thank you

26:03 for that okay we got to wrap up we're

26:05 almost at the top of the hour let's do

26:06 one last question let's do it on

26:08 enlightening round mode so all of you

26:11 all have seen the the agenda for the

26:13 juniper summit so just give me one

26:16 session that you're most excited about

26:17 on the summit agenda

26:19 um

26:21 yes please don't worry yeah so being a

26:24 service writer engineer i am most most

26:27 excited excited about sassy

26:30 uh i think there's one fashion or a

26:32 session on sassy and beyond and the

26:34 other one uh

26:36 for van automation so that's something

26:38 i'm really looking forward to and

26:40 listening in their perspective uh what

26:42 they want to like what their perspective

26:45 is on this

26:46 got it stefan how about you i think for

26:48 me because my experience these days is

26:50 mostly with data centers i'm really

26:52 looking forward to the exciting session

26:54 on leveraging automation uh for reliable

26:56 data center operations

26:58 yeah that'll be a great one zeus

27:01 uh well obviously ai apps one i think is

27:03 gonna be really exciting as well it's

27:05 it's it's oriented to this concept of

27:07 experience versus networking but the

27:09 other one i'm really working with is 5g

27:11 i think 5g is a fundamentally different

27:14 type of wireless network it's going to

27:15 change our lives in ways that we don't

27:17 even know yet so i'm excited to see

27:19 what's happened there

27:21 so so for me i'll take it turn it

27:23 answering this question it's actually

27:24 rami section which is going to kick us

27:26 off because it's a view from the ceo's

27:28 office and yes it's about juniper to

27:30 some extent but really it's about what

27:31 all companies should be thinking about

27:33 and things like attracting and retaining

27:34 talent and navigating a company through

27:36 uncertainty

27:37 of a pandemic and of inflation and the

27:40 power of ai

27:41 i think it will give everyone a view

27:43 into what their c-suite and their board

27:45 of directors are thinking which is

27:47 always really valuable so this session

27:49 is always the best right so yes

27:55 he always says great so maybe i cheated

27:56 by picking him yeah

27:58 definitely he's also our ceo so um

28:02 so so thank you zeus newport stefan it's

28:05 always great to speak with you i'm

28:07 looking forward to connecting with

28:08 everyone on may 11th at the juniper

28:10 summit check the comments check the

28:11 outro for how to register if you haven't

28:13 already uh have a great day we'll see

28:15 you next week

28:16 thank you

28:17 thank you

28:18 thank you

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